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01:08 am - Ich bin das Juggernaut, Weibchen! (hints of shadows of possible spoilers, in case you care)
I saw X-Men: The Last Stand tonight with Ellen, tempermemad, r3507, and Jimi. A few thoughts:
1. Brett Rattner: Competent director, bad choice for this movie. Should stick to Rush Hour movies (oh wait, that's his plan).

2. Far, far too many new characters for a single movie, most with less personality than a thumbnail sketch. You'd get more character development by doing roll call.

3. "I'm the juggernaut, bitch!" This like when The Man Show made that reference to Fark.com, and Adam Carolla winked the the camera for emphasis. Remember when that happened? Of course not -- longtime Fark readers don't even remember it. Throwing a bone to the Internet fanbase is a bad idea because ten years from now nobody will remember what it meant. For that matter, I'm just oozing to find out whether Snakes on a Plane has a shelf-life longer than its initial DVD release. I bet it turns out to be 2006's Home Alone. 'cept for college kids.

4. Plot holes. Lots of 'em, especially of the "wait, _____ could have done _____ and everything would have been fine" variety. Seriously, the characters were so resourceful in the second movie. What happened?

5. Where was the recap? Wow. Here is a sequel that hardly bothers to reintroduce the characters or bring the audience up to speed. If you've seen the other two movies you'll do fine, but anyone having their first X-Men experience will be totally lost.

6. Despite all of this, I actually enjoyed the movie immensely because (let's face it) it's an action-filled popcorn movie, and that's pretty much what I expected.
In comparison with the other movies, X-Men 3 is, well, it might be on par with the first one... or maybe not quite. I don't know. Generally I could care less about the X-Men franchise, which is why you don't see me whining about botched (or obliterated) continuity. Speaking as an outsider, X-Men 2 is probably the best comic-based superhero movie I've ever seen. The third movie makes a fine coda to the series, but the story climaxes in X2, and that's unfortunate. X-Men 3 sans explosions wouldn't have much to offer.

They leave the story open for continuation, but I'm guessing we won't be seeing X-Men Take Manhattan or X-Men at Bernie's II or X-Men Suit Larry 5: Passionate Patti Does Pittsbu a Little Undercover Work anytime soon.
Current Mood: goodfine
Current Music: Seu Jorge -- Five Years

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From:evil_jim
Date:May 27th, 2006 06:15 am (UTC)
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What exactly are the Juggernaut & Snakes references all about?
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 27th, 2006 07:11 am (UTC)
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I hate you all for having seen X3 already. But I get to see Over The Headge and D.code with my grandma.


You are all still bitches.

~Holly
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From:evil_jim
Date:May 27th, 2006 08:31 am (UTC)
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Whyfor do you hate? I haven't seen any of the X-men films. I did, however, finish reading The Da Vinci Code tonite. It's pretty good, but Michael Crichton is better at weaving historical fact into a story.
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From:sacredspud
Date:May 27th, 2006 02:30 pm (UTC)
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I do think that X2 would be worth your time, but in order to appreciate it you'll have to see X-Men first. That's something that I forgot when I initally made this post (I've edited it now to add another point to my list). X-Men 3 assumes that you already know the characters and the storyline. Anytime a sequel comes out, there's a sizeable fraction of the audience who hasn't seen the previous chapter(s) yet. X-Men 3 is not a movie for them, as they'll either be totally lost or only partially aware of what's going on.
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From:sacredspud
Date:May 27th, 2006 02:19 pm (UTC)
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Well, here's the infamous Juggernaut dub, if you haven't seen it. The repeated catchphrase from that video and has been worked into the movie. This is tantamount to, say, Arfenhouse: Teh Movie references popping up in a Final Fantasy movie.

As for Snakes on a Plane: Here's the Wikipedia entry. Snakes on a Plane was the working title for an upcoming Samuel L. Jackson action/suspense movie which was later retitled to Pacific Air Flight 121. Thanks to the original, ridiculous title, SoaP generated a great deal of buzz on teh internets. When the studio realized how much interest there was, the title reverted to Snakes on a Plane, and they spent five days shooting new footage in an effort to make the movie into a cult classic before it even comes out. Behold the power of message boards, I guess. I'm not sure how I feel about all this, but I've promised Gemma I'll see it with her.
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From:sweetconcord
Date:May 27th, 2006 08:00 am (UTC)
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Wait....he actually says "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch"?
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From:evil_jim
Date:May 27th, 2006 08:32 am (UTC)
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Um... yeah. Whatever that means.
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From:sweetconcord
Date:May 27th, 2006 06:43 pm (UTC)
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Egads, that's Bullet-Tooth Tony. I really need to see this film.
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From:sacredspud
Date:May 27th, 2006 01:36 pm (UTC)

Not to ruin the movie for you, but...

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Yes, yes he does. And actually, the way they did it feels natural. Still, in a few years it'll just be random profanity, and no one will understand its significance.
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From:r3507
Date:May 27th, 2006 03:50 pm (UTC)

Re: Not to ruin the movie for you, but...

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Hell, I just thought it was random profanity NOW. I was wholly unaware of this reference until you pointed it out. At least it wasn't too disjointed.
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From:seanorange
Date:May 30th, 2006 03:05 am (UTC)

Re: Not to ruin the movie for you, but...

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Hell, I didn't understand its significance until all of this, and I still don't think I like it.

...bitch.

~Sean
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From:koriandrkitten
Date:May 30th, 2006 01:41 am (UTC)
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Icon love. Seriously <3
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From:matchstyx
Date:May 28th, 2006 03:36 pm (UTC)

Disappointed

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I was very disappointed in the movie. It started good, but there was too much that didn't go with the comic - and glaring plot holes and lack of irony.

It was still fun to watch, I guess, but the overall message of the first two I felt was obliterated. Singer I know would've made sure the continuity was there in the script, because it was too hollywood...

It jsut left me with a bad taste in my mouth.....
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From:sacredspud
Date:May 28th, 2006 05:49 pm (UTC)

Re: Disappointed

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I can agree with that. Again, I'm not worried about continuity with the comic because I'm not really a fan, but X-Men and X2 were full of weighty ideas (at least as far as action films go), and X-Men 3 just sort of discarded that stuff in favor of fist-fights and explosions. I guess fist-fights and explosions are a fundamental part of X-Men, but they have nothing to do with the longevity of the comic, or the success of the first two films.

I felt the same way about The Matrix: Revolutions. Both movies felt to me like they were plodding toward their conclusion, as if to say, "well, we shot our wad with the second one, but we gotta tie things up so here ya go."
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From:seanorange
Date:May 30th, 2006 03:06 am (UTC)

Re: Disappointed

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It's things like this that make me very fearful of the new Transformers movie.

Does anyone know anything about Michael Bay? Anything at all?

~Sean
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From:sacredspud
Date:May 30th, 2006 03:27 am (UTC)

Re: Disappointed

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Holy sack, you're not saying that Bay is directing the TF movie, are you?

Oh God, IMDB tells me you're not kidding. Sean, Mr. Bay is the talentless monkey responsible for the Bad Boys movies, The Island, Armageddon, Pearl Harbor and The Rock. If he directs the Transformers movie, you can be sure that it will be slick and attractive and will command mainstream ticket sales, but will be entirely lacking in technical and artistic merit.

I'm sure Tom will have some words to say about this, too.
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From:seanorange
Date:May 30th, 2006 04:15 am (UTC)

Re: Disappointed

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Did you also catch the cast? It's full of pretty-boys/girls and a slew of contemporary comedians (as well as John "I'm Angelina Jolie's goddamned father" Voight, but that's beside the point), and those are just the HUMANS. Why so many humans? They haven't even cast the voice voice talent yet, which is just scary scary scary.

From what people are saying of the leaked script, the actual titular characters have all the personality of a crumpled-up, grease-stained paper bag. The fact that their roles are considered last just proves what you are saying about eye-candy... sadly.

~Sean (huge[ly disappointed] Transformers fan)
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From:seanorange
Date:June 7th, 2006 12:07 am (UTC)

Re: Disappointed

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...and apparently Tom had absolutely nothing to say about it.

~Sean
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From:defaultlisa
Date:May 28th, 2006 05:44 pm (UTC)
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Just saw the video this week, coincidentally. Sometimes I am amazed at how fluently the neurons and synapses of the geek culture circuit work.
Ich bin das Juggernaut, Weibchen! (hints of shadows of possible spoilers, in case you care) - Garmonbozia for the soul.

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